Ear Cropping

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  1. Carla Rotnda
    August 30, 2013

    This is a good topic, one that I am sure will receive a lot of comment and interest. Your questions are valid, however, you left out the option/question: Did you formerly (or never) crop, and prefer natural ears? and there is no option to answer the same questions…”you like the look”, “for health, etc. reasons”, “Do you feel you are at a disadvantage in the ring because you show natural”. The only category I could vote in was Ear Cropping Legality, to which I answered I would accept the change in law and continue to show natural, however, I am already showing natural, so for me that is a moot point. I am not necessarily in favor of the law, nor am I in favor of cropping, but I do wish there was some balance in the show ring regardless of whether or not a Dane is cropped. Thank you for this category.

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    • ticket
      August 31, 2013

      I agree and I think since it is not required the Danes should not be penalized for having natural ears-it is after all the natural look of the dog.

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  2. Jim and Elizabeth
    August 30, 2013

    We generally like natural ears and dread cropping. We struggle so much with this decission. We will not crop a pet for any reason. For show puppies…it is such a tough call. If you have a nice puppy, want it shown and can’t keep it, you will probably have to crop it to get them in the right home.

    In our experience, Fawns and Brindles seem to carry the natural ear better than colored dogs. There are some Danes that have very poor ear sets and may ‘need’ to be cropped to be able to compete. Too often in this breed, the asthetic appeal of the head will trump a dog with superior bone, angles and movement. Having shown both, cropped and natural, there is no question there is a bias for cropped ears and against natural ears.

    All that being said, even more concerning is the art of cropping seems to have been lost save for a handful of vets. We have a nice puppy with a horrible crop and looking over dogs in the last year or so, we are far from being alone.

    For us personally, there are a lot of sleepless nights that go into this decission and it isn’t so black and white as yes or no.

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    • Jim and Elizabeth
      August 30, 2013

      We need to add that we do not dislike the look of a well cropped dane. We struggle with the idea of doing it.

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  3. Kristin D
    August 30, 2013

    I don’t like the ear cropping. I feel it is painful for the Dane and just looks dumb. I like the natural look of their ears. The only reason they were cropped was for boar hunting, and we all know that doesn’t happen.

    thanks again

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    • ticket
      August 31, 2013

      you are correct Kristin and I agree with what you have to say.

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  4. unduki
    August 30, 2013

    Both my Danes are natural. I cropped my first Dane (now passed) because I thought I had to but once I discovered it shouldn’t make a difference in the ring, I gladly allowed my girls to enjoy their puppyhood. Unfortunately, it DID make a difference in the ring. I still won’t crop ever again. I’d like to see a law so that all Danes could be judged the same – without having to undergo painful and unnecessary plastic surgery designed simply to satisfy a human whim.

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  5. Margaret
    August 30, 2013

    I feel Cropping is not inhumane in any way when done by professionals. I am tired of bleeding hearts who have no idea about cropping making these decisions for our breed or any breed. If they watched it being done correctly and how quickly the puppies respond with no pain after the surgeries then maybe they would stop trying to change to no cropping.

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    • Lisa
      September 20, 2013

      amen Margaret!

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  6. Caron Honeck
    September 1, 2013

    Always an “emotional” topic; whether one chooses to crop or not is a personal decision, much like tacking, dew claw removal, tail docking & even spaying/neutering. With so many more major issues that face my beloved breed, my feeling to crop or not to crop shouldn’t have to be a major topic of discussion, to each his/her own. How about why are danes getting smaller? Why are there no fronts or chests, width or depth or what about temperament?? Or why so many ring tails? DCM, Bloat, thyroid, epilepsy. I really think we have far more concerning issues haunting our Giant Breed, than whether or not someone “CHOOSES” to do an ear trim or not. IMO. We have owned both natural & cropped. If it is a truly great specimen ears do not matter. Maybe we all need to get back to breeding & presenting/exhibiting only really great dogs that illustrate the standard

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    • Debra lowery
      September 9, 2013

      Thank You Caron!!!! I’ve owned my first Grt Dane for a little over 2 1/2 yrs. The breeder made the decision to crop,I respect the decision. I also worked for a veteran for several years, helped him size the ears to the pups heads before he cut the ears. The pain, if any is minimal, the worst part is the taping and retaping. But when you look at the big picture, ear cropping should not be at the top of the Great Dane List, if on it at all. I have been schooled by several notable Great Dane breeders & handlers during my 2/12 yrs. Alot of what I see in the show ring shouldn’t be there, so many of the judges don’t seem interested enough to educate themselves suffeciently on all the breeds they judge. It is hurting all the breeds equally. The standards are easy to understand for the most part, yet I have never seen a judge excuse any dog for being to short, to tall, color imperfections, or anything that is stated in the standard as exteremly undesirable, or should not be shown. Each breed’s national club should make sure that the standards are adhered to as much as possible by it members. It is also every breeders(show dogs or pets) responsibility to do DNA &CHIC testing to help ensure the health and longevit of the dogs they breed. I personally prefer cropped ears on most breeds that allow chopping in that breeds standard. We, owners, breeders, handlers,judges, are responsible for the breed we have chosen for ourselves. We owe that breed the respect to ensure its survival and to DO IT RIGHT, NOT HALF WAY. Cropping ears or docking tails should not be an issue, yes it was started way back when for some type of sport or hunt, but it is one of the distinguishing points of the breed.
      DPL,

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  7. Karen Martin
    September 6, 2013

    That second question is almost deceiving. Two questions in one and are you answering the first or second question? I answered second question. Are all those answer from natural eared owners?

    I don’t want our rights taken away to choose however I would NOT be unhappy if it was outlawed!

    I stopped because I feel it is inhumane on a puppy. Putting them through an un necessary surgery just because we like the look of it. I don’t care what anyone says, it IS painful for puppies after they are cropped. The first day is the worst with the whining and crying, shaking head and absolute uncomfortable feeling. Then months of taping. You try putting tape on your ears till they have sores and tape over those. That does not feel good pulling tape off ears. Dogs are very stoic and when you can see them having pain and discomfort is is more than I would take for myself!

    Yes there IS a bias in the ring, but there are biases about everything. Overall it has not taken that much longer for me to finish a natural eared dog. But I now wait longer to start them also. Large natural ears are much more unappealing than large cropped ears that don’t stand! So I just wait for them to grow into their ears more.

    I am not saying I will never crop again because I don’t ever want to say never. If the ear set was low and it was otherwise the best puppy I would keep the best and crop it.
    (I think? I have not had to face that yet)

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  8. Sue Acquistapace
    September 12, 2013

    I stopped cropping many years ago. It took a while but now I am so used to natural ears that the cropped ears look mutilated to me. Further, very few cropped ears actually compliment the dog’s head and most are flipping or flopping at least at the tips. It would seem that people should continue to tape until they are fully up, or not crop at all. When I did crop, my dogs’ ears stud fully erect with no flipping tips… just sayin’

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  9. Alison White
    September 13, 2013

    I left the Great Dane breed in part because of my incredible disappointment on the lack of progress toward natural ears. Our breed standard could not be more supportive of the natural ear. If there are groups currently working on ear cropping legislation, gee whiz, I’d like to know about it! Since the VT bill died in committee in 2004 (a bill requested by the vets of the state, BTW), I know of no other legislative efforts in any state. Agree the survey questions do not account for breeders who have never cropped a dog. Yes, we do exist and yes we do finish AKC champions. No, I don’t think it is harder. Quality will always rise to the top. But clearly, I am alone…so very alone…in those opinions. I am in utter despair over the state of our breed on this issue.

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  10. gmj
    September 23, 2013

    Cropping is”inhumane” for ONLY the owner! I am always amazed how owners pass their own emotions on to their dogs.
    I ask these same people : why dont they stop circumsising their baby boys ? And surely do not neuter or spay; those are alot more uncomfortable.
    Once when two of my bitches had a herrendous bloody fight, and I finally broke them up; only to find one’s ear had completely split from tip to base and was bleeding profusely. It was Sunday nite; too much bleeding & too long of a ride to the ER. My husband sewed her ear, and she practically slept thru the whole thing without even a ”Ho-Hum”.
    Why do you think your puppy is in ”so much pain”; ESP ? It is the owner that experiences the pain. I relate cropping to having a tooth pulled .

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