Widening The Winner’s Circle

An excerpt from Pat Hastings’ article Widening the Winners Circle in The Canine Chronicle which can found HERE

“What I propose is a rule change to allow a club to change the way they hire judges for groups and Best In Show. Let’s give them the opportunity to hire at the breed level only: we would print the premium list as usual except that it would not list judges for group and Best In Show. As the time for group judging nears, the names of all judges on the slate who are eligible to judge each group would be thrown in a hat (box, bowl, whatever) for a drawing to determine that group’s judge. Each drawing would take place only after the dogs entered the group ring.
This same process would be applied to Best In Show. What this minor change could accomplish is exciting to ponder. The emphasis would be returned to the breed level and people would be submitting entries for that purpose. The big winning and records would be a bonus — the icing on the cake — instead of the primary purpose of showing.”


  1. admin
    May 30, 2013

    Please leave your comments

    • Beve Hauer
      May 30, 2013

      It would be interesting because the draws would be so random as to combinations of daily Judging panels.. Not sure how it would effect invites to judges that don’t judge groups..(May not have any different effect) Pat is always thinking outside the box. Great article.

  2. Chantel
    May 30, 2013

    This is not a new idea, it has been talked about before. I remember sitting at a dog club meeting years ago having this discussion where someone said they knew of other animal competitions where the judges are picked randomly on the day of the show. Yes, I would support this.

  3. Ray Cataldi
    July 1, 2013

    If you believe the judging panel should be selected randomly and not published prior to the show, do you think the handlers ( including owner/handlers) should just draw arm bands at the gate to see who they will handle right before the classes start?

    Do you think the cast of a movie should be selected randomly and not be disclosed prior you buying your ticket and sitting in our theater seat?

    • Dan Palantino
      July 20, 2013

      I am very much with Ray on this topic. I would like to see more prestige – bigger shows which would mean less shows in one area on a given weekend, but that would be another topic. To me picking judges out of a hat seems very hokey.

    • Heidi
      August 4, 2013


      I don’t believe that movie casting or hiring of handlers qualify as competitive sports, but that’s an interesting analogy! 🙂 I think that’s the point.

  4. Dawn Ruhl
    July 15, 2013

    I can see big time breeders and handlers getting their knickers in a wad over the idea of this, tho. Because it levels the playing field just a wee bit. Can’t have that!

    • Zee
      July 30, 2013

      I agree Dawn! Lets level the playing field just a bit since this is a subjective sport.

  5. Kathyt Anaya
    August 2, 2013

    I think it is a fabulous idea! This would certainly level the playing field. Support this, you bet I would!

  6. Elmer Robinson
    August 22, 2013

    If I understand it correctly, they are still the same judges!? Randomization of bad judging doesn’t change the quality of the judging. I’m for equality by all means, however not sure this moves us in the right direction.


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